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Questions following the Acrobat and WCAG2.0 Presentation

jebswebs
Registered: Jun 9 2009
Posts: 11
Answered

I am a bit disappointed that there was not enough time to answer what had to be many questions about Adobe Acrobat and Accessibility. So, I am hoping that those questions can, and will, be answered here. So, since mine were not answered, I'll start:

1. I have MS Office 2007 and Acrobat Pro v8 installed. Office 07 was installed as an upgrade from v 2003 and Acrobat Pro was already there. There was some kind of "PDF Maker" plugin installed in Office 2003 from Acrobat pro and it worked great. When I upgraded to Office 2007, the plugin worked for a little while and the crashed so bad that Office uninstalled it. I have since been using another PDF making plugin that I got from MS and that's been working great. But the one demoed today seems to have some wonderful controls that I would love to have. So where do I get that one. The wrong answer will be "go out and buy Acrobat v 9..."

2. Apart from using the OCR to rescan an old (pre 2001) AA doc, is there anyway to (efficiently and not very expensively) make these legacy docs accessible? Until now, I have recommended and counseled that the client should remove the old ones and recreate from original documents. What do you recommend?

Respectfully yours...

John Brandt

John E. Brandt
Augusta, ME 04330 USA
http://www.jebswebs.com
jeb [at] jebswebs [dot] com

My Product Information:
Acrobat Pro 8.1.2, Windows
redcrew
Registered: Nov 7 2006
Posts: 83
I was at today's webinar too. There were a lot of questions answered in chat, but I know some of mine didn't get answered either.

Can't help with #1 of your question, but for #2, when you say "AA doc" are you referring to a Adobe Acrobat PDF that was created before 2001?
lkassuba
ExpertTeam
Registered: Jun 28 2007
Posts: 3636
We're working on the Q&A transcript from today's session and it will be posted with the on-demand version of the eSeminar so hopefully all your questions will be answered there.In regards to your first question, the PDFMaker macro ships with Acrobat including version 8. But you'll need to make sure that you're using at least version 8.1 of Acrobat because this was the first version to support Office 2007. Your plugin may have originally crashed if you were not using the latest updates. To re-enable the plugin, check out these [url=http://www.acrobatusers.com/forums/aucbb/viewtopic.php?id=1861]instructions[/url].

Lori Kassuba is an AUC Expert and Community Manager for AcrobatUsers.com.

jebswebs
Registered: Jun 9 2009
Posts: 11
That must be what happened. I'll do the reinstall.

John E. Brandt
Augusta, ME 04330 USA
http://www.jebswebs.com
jeb [at] jebswebs [dot] com

jebswebs
Registered: Jun 9 2009
Posts: 11
redcrew wrote:
I was at today's webinar too. There were a lot of questions answered in chat, but I know some of mine didn't get answered either.Can't help with #1 of your question, but for #2, when you say "AA doc" are you referring to a Adobe Acrobat PDF that was created before 2001?
Yes...I have seen some ancient things out there on the web (legal docs on state gov sites) and advised them to take them down.

~j

John E. Brandt
Augusta, ME 04330 USA
http://www.jebswebs.com
jeb [at] jebswebs [dot] com

daka630
Expert
Registered: Mar 1 2007
Posts: 1420
Hi John,
re: Your item #2 -
What to do would seem to be predicated by what the legacy PDFs are.
If they are output PDFs from some authoring application then you have PDF content consisting of renderable text.
For these, post-processing with Acrobat Professional would yield PDFs that, done *right*, would be Section 508 compliant AND usable;
thus "accessible". While this would call for a greater level of effort, if the deliverable is to be PDFs that are functionally accessible to
those using AT then that is what gets done. At the end of the day this might well cost less than future litigation brought about by
deliverables that are superficially "accessible".
Taking hardcopy of something already digital and scanning it into PDF can result in its own genre of issues.

If the legacy PDFs are already scanned images then Acrobat Professional can be used to process the Figure tags.
Reliance on the OCR text (of textual images) pretty much assures usability issues. Even 'good' OCR output will be salted
some with "mis-reading" of what some characters are (by the OCR engine). Often OCR output (due to variables not associated with the
given OCR engine) is less than 'good'.
In a PDF, the hidden text that is the OCR will be rendered by the AT application (and Adobe's Read Aloud).
What's served up is, at best, a wee bit salty or, at worst, so salted with blivets as to undigestable.
All of which is to say, not usable and thus not accessible.
Of course, if the scanned image is of a legal document then using anything other than a searchable image (exact) approach
results in altering the source image. Is the altered output still "true, accurate, complete, ...." to the original?
Tagging the image with the Figure tag element is not so hard and I believe there are companies that can utilize programmatic approaches.
What to use for Alternate or Actual (replacement) text is a more significant problem. While I suspect this too may be processed programmatically what do we use for the text?
"This is a scanned image of some text." or something similiarly "brief" may not yield a functionally usable PDF for those using AT applications.

For legacy stuff that *must* be online it might be possible for your clients to engage in a work-study (or something similar) arrangement
with local schools (business - trade - junior college - whatnot) whereby participating students re-key the documents, do a first pass QC
and submit the output PDF to the sponsor entity. The students could obtain some class credits and be exposed to the work world
environment and infra-structure documents of importance to the sponsor entity.

Be well...

Be well...

jebswebs
Registered: Jun 9 2009
Posts: 11
Thanks for the thoughtful and thorough response.

~j

John E. Brandt
Augusta, ME 04330 USA
http://www.jebswebs.com
jeb [at] jebswebs [dot] com