ifcSpaces not imported

What is an ifcSpace?

Thanks,
Leonard

Leonard,
I guess it starts here -

[url]http://www.buildingsmart.com/[/url]
[url]http://iaiweb.lbl.gov/IFC/R2x3_final/ifcproductextension/lexical/ifcspace.htm[/url]

"Industry Foundation Classes" - interesting reading.
Well, PDF is an ISO Standard; so, IFC ought to be able to que up to it(?).
Skeptical as to it happening the other way.

Be well...

IFC seems to be a model, not an actual language, for describing the 2D and 3D spatial relationships of objects. If someone wished to put IFC-compatible data into a PDF, there are already spaces for "Object Data" in both 2D and 3D in PDF that they could use.

And I agree, if the IFC committee wants to go further to standardize EXACTLY how to use ifcSpaces with PDF - they are welcome to do so. We've worked closely with MANY other groups in defining how their data schemas would integrate with PDF.

So great, the answer is my standard is better than your standard. Is that it? and Acrobat is the "one standard to rule them all"? While this would make a great movie trilogy here in the real world that's not how it is...

If Acrobat does not want to support IFC correctly, no problem. There are quality free viewers available. It was Acrobat's choice to import IFC's as part of the 9 Pro Extended. It is up to Acrobat to do the import correctly.

I thought someone on this board would have access to the Acrobat programmers that worked on the Acrobat IFC import. Since those people have not answered my post, my team and I will go directly to the Acrobat Army Account manager for assistance.

Really, no need to be huffy.
As this website's name states, this is an Acrobat USER Community and not Adobe's corporate support service.
A starting point for that is the page at:
[url=http://www.adobe.com/support/programs/]Adobe support programs[/url]
However, is very likely that the IT group associated with your parent organization already has something in place.

Do note that your initial post does leave a distinct impression that IFC cannot be brought into PDF with Acrobat.
May not be what you "meant"; it is what you left as an impression.

Yes, Acrobat Pro/Pro Extended does list IFC as a format supported for "Convert to PDF".
Keeping in mind the discussions of import of other supported formats (as found in the various forums here), there are bounding parameters associated with each of the formats.
There is no Harry Potter wand...

As to "one standard to rule them all" - while IFC has a nicely robust community supporting a useful and interesting schema, it is not an ISO standard.
From where I sit (in the peanut gallery) if I wanted better intergration of "my stuff" with the dominant PDF reader/processing "agent" I'd emulate what Bently Microsystem did & does.
"Take a meeting" and get the ball rolling.

Certainly there are other applications that can "view" PDF.
As there are other applications that can "make" PDF.
All are not created equal.

Do Be well...

Acrobat 9 Pro Extended does support the importing of IFC with a focus on architectural users and not for MCAD. However, as I am sure you know, IFC has a LOT of object definitions and we only support a subset. In addition, there is some lack of standardization so we have seen incompatibilities;

If you have specific issues, PLEASE file bug reports so that we can see about getting them addressed!

Leonard

when importing IFC files into acrobat, IFCSPACE entities are hidden.
You have to check the option "hidden objects" in the IFC dialog box to import them.
Once the file is in acrobat, click "show all parts" in the popup menu to make them appear.

Eric