Hello,
I have recently discovered that there is a limitations to 500 users when you create Saveable forms in Acrobat Professional. Se this document: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/acrobat/standard/using/WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7e0d.w.php
My question is if this restriction applies to Acrobat Reader or to Acrobat Professional? If it applies to Reader, couldn't you just make a normal non-saveable pdf and then use another application such as NitroPDF to fill in forms and save? Or is the restriction applied to Professional? In that case I would have to find another pdf form creation tool that doesn' have this limitation.
I have looked at LiveCycle, but it doesn't meet my wishes with the distribution tool.
To Adobe I must say that this issue is quite a jungle to figure out, and you should have a very clear communications on this issue.
Best regards
Henrik
Extend Readers Rights for Acrobat Reader users - Legal question
2011-05-15 03:59:25
Answered
My Product Information:
Acrobat Pro 10.0.2, Windows
Acrobat Pro 10.0.2, Windows
2011-05-15 07:40:22
#2
Please read the terms and conditions for your copy of Acrobat, in particular clause 16.8.3, where the restriction is made very clear.The 500-return limitation applies to the person who has created and/or distributed the Reader-extended PDF file. It does not and cannot apply to anyone else. It doesn't matter if the person returning the form is using Adobe software or not, it matters solely that you have used Adobe Acrobat to apply extended rights to the file prior to distribution.
2011-05-15 07:52:01
#3
There are no licensing restrictions placed on the users of a Reader-enabled form, regardless of what PDF viewer they use to fill-in and save. There are restrictions placed on the licensee of Acrobat for Reader-enabled forms that have been returned to the licensee, regardless of what PDF viewer is used. For forms that have not been Reader-enabled, there are no licensing restrictions.
2011-05-15 09:02:12
#4
Thank you for your replies. Is it true that if I create a pdf with fillable forms and save it the normal way, that is without the Extended User Rights, users with for example NitroPDF can open the pdf, fill-in the forms and save it, there is no problem? (NitroPDF is a free pdf reader, that has the option to save pdf forms).
Are there other options to make these pdfs saveable, without having to distribute throught LiveCycle?
And another thing, why does Adobe has these restrictions?
Are there other options to make these pdfs saveable, without having to distribute throught LiveCycle?
And another thing, why does Adobe has these restrictions?
2011-05-15 09:53:02
#5
Yes, such a form can be saved with other PDF viewers that support it. These other PDF viewers (Foxit, Nuance, Nitro, Preview, etc.) have different levels of support for various forms-related features.
Adobe controls what Reader capabilities are available because it provides a revenue stream via LiveCycle Reader Extensions and Acrobat.
Adobe controls what Reader capabilities are available because it provides a revenue stream via LiveCycle Reader Extensions and Acrobat.
2011-05-15 12:16:55
#6
Ok, last question: If lets say I have created a normallly saved pdf file with forms and the user fills it in with NitroPDF Reader and returns it to me, does the limitations of 500 still apply then?
2011-05-15 12:30:24
#7
Accepted Answer
Clause 16.8.3 applies to documents "manipulated by Acrobat... to enable the ability to locally save documents with filled-in PDF forms", i.e. via the Reader Extensions save option. If the PDF file has not been so manipulated, there are no restrictions on the number of returned responses.
If you have access to a web scripting page, you can submit the form to the page and have the web service return a completed copy of the page, and with this method you are limited to the 500 copy distribution limit or the LiveCycle Distribution.
George Kaiser