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vfields
Registered: Jan 22 2008
Posts: 9

I have created a form in LiveCycle that allows the engineers in our organization to submit their inventions for review to our patent committee. The form needs the capability to add or remove inventors because there may be numerous inventors listed on one form and the majority of the fields in the form need to be able to adjust according to the amount of text entered. So far the form looks terrific and our attorney was impressed with the form; however, we also need to allow for the inventors to attach invention documentation to the form. I have researched the AUC forums and found that LiveCycle forms does not allow file attachments or have the ability to paste text and drawings from programs such as MS Word into text fields. I know that Acroforms has the capability to allow file attachments, but the other limitations seem to outweigh the use of this program versus LiveCycle Design. How have others addressed similar issues?

thomp
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Registered: Feb 15 2006
Posts: 4411
You can put attachements into a LiveCycle form.

Open it in Acrobat Pro or Standard. The from the view menu, select the attachments navigation panel. You can drag and drop files right into it.

Thom Parker
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vfields
Registered: Jan 22 2008
Posts: 9
The users of this form will be using an Acrobat Reader Enabled form and not Standard or Professional.

I was able to see how to add attachments w/in Acrobat Pro 8, but was not able to see the same options available in Reader. Is this option available for Reader Enabled forms? Is there something I should be doing w/in Designer or Professional when I enable usage rights for the form?

Am I missing something obvious; I am a programmer, but I'm still somewhat new to creating dynamic forms in Acrobat/LiveCycle Designer?
thomp
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Registered: Feb 15 2006
Posts: 4411
I was afraid that you'd say it needed to work in Reader. There is a special "Reader Extension Right" for File Embedding. It's not available in Acrobat 8 Pro, you have to have the LiveCycle ES Rights Server. Or you can purchase rights extensions from a reseller, like www.FormRouter.com.

Thom Parker
The source for PDF Scripting Info
www.pdfscripting.com
Very Important - How to Debug Your Script

vfields
Registered: Jan 22 2008
Posts: 9
Bummer... I was really hoping that would not be the case...

Do you know if this capability will be given for stand alone versions of Acrobat Professional/Designer at some point? My confusion is that image files can be added, why not other file types - is it a security issue?
thomp
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Registered: Feb 15 2006
Posts: 4411
Images files aren't added to the form. The image data is imported into a picture element, so this is a different thing. As far as file embedding goes, this isn't as much of a security issue as it's a revenue generation issue;)

For regular Acrobat Forms (AcroForms) there is a sneeky work around for this issue. One of the old comment annotation types is the "File Attachment" annotation. So if the form was enabled for commenting, which you can do from Acrobat 8, you could place file attachment annotations on the form programatically. I don't think this will work for LC forms, but you could give it a try.

Thom Parker
The source for PDF Scripting Info
www.pdfscripting.com
Very Important - How to Debug Your Script

vfields
Registered: Jan 22 2008
Posts: 9
Thank you for the information!!!

I'll try the work around and see if I can get it to work.

Vanessa Fields
vfields
Registered: Jan 22 2008
Posts: 9
Unfortunately the Enable for Commenting is not available for a form created in LiveCycle Designer.

Thanks for the assistance!
allenbotello
Registered: Apr 2 2009
Posts: 1
I was able to find a way to do this.
Open the document that is not an xml.PDF (livecycle doc) and do the following:
1) You have to go into the Adobe Pro 9/advanced/ extend features in Adobe Reader
2) instead of attaching a document to your xml.PDF (livecycle doc) you can attach the
xml.PDF document to your PDF w/ extended features in adobe reader

This way you can still move the information around with having it conflict with the xml.PDF format.