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Just want folks to fill out a form & send it back,why is that so hard?

sarahwarda
Registered: Dec 8 2008
Posts: 17

So first off, adobe technical support is a joke. I've called 5 times and no one has been able to solve my problem, they've not called back and emailed when they said they would, i've been disconnected after staying on hold for over an hour and i really don't think any of them actually know anything about the programs they are providing support for. Thats out-sourcing for you, ok with that off my chest, here is my issue:

I am just trying to create a simple form (a volunteer interest profile for member of a non-profit organization) I designed the layout, etc in illustrator then made a basic pdf document. Using Adobe Live Cycle Designer, i created a new form, placing fields by hand- just text fields and check boxes. It is a 5 page form. When i was done, i tried linking to this form on my website ( i use Dreamweaver) I thought this was all a no-brainer. But when you go to the website and click on the link, the browser window would crash and it would give you xml parsing error codes. I called support, they juggled me around a bit and told me that unless i upgraded to some fancier support account, they couldn't help me.

So i abandoned the idea of linking to the pdf- I'll just send it to folks, they can send it back to me in an email as an attachment- or so i thought. When i tried doing this, it told users that you could fill out the form, but not save it. So i looked up info on this, found out about enabling usage rights, did that and sent it again. Now users are getting the following message:

"this document contained certain rights to enable special features in adobe reader. the document has been changed since it was created and these rights are no longer valid. please contact the author for the original version of this document."

However- I HAVE NOT CHANGED THE DOCUMENT!!! i am so frustrated by this whole ordeal I am pulling my hair out. Users get the same message when I use Adobe LiveCycles Distribute Form feature (which i dont like because most of my users don't have local email clients such as outlook). Is there ANYONE out there who can help me figure this out. I don't understand what i am possibly doing wrong. please plase plase, i am desperate.

My Product Information:
LiveCycle Designer, Windows
gkaiseril
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Registered: Feb 23 2006
Posts: 4307
After you enable the rights, exit the document do not save it do not save as.

George Kaiser

sarahwarda
Registered: Dec 8 2008
Posts: 17
when you go to advanced > enable usage rights in adobe reader , you have to hit "save now" to complete the process. ???
radzmar
Expert
Registered: Nov 3 2008
Posts: 1202
1. Users can simply return the form with a "custom mail button" that uses a script like this in its mouse up event.
**************************************************************
var myDoc = event.target;
var address = "yourname [at] domain [dot] com";
var sub = "Returned volunteer interest profile";
var msgBody = "Hello,\n\Your text\nMore text...\n\nKind regards\n";

myDoc.mailDoc({
bUI: false,
cTo: address,
cSubject: sub,
cMsg: msgBody,
cSubmitAs: "PDF"
});
**************************************************************

2. Create your form with LiveCycle Designer and save it as Form(master).pdf for example.

3. Open the Volunteer_Interest_Profile(master).pdf with Acrobat (not Reader) and choose "Enable Usage Rights" from the Advanced Menu.
You will be asked to save it.
Save it as Volunteer_Interest_Profile.pdf (don't replace your master form), because when you repopen an usage enabled form in designer it return the rights.

4. Distribute your form.
If you don't like Acrobat's Tracker and Forms Distribution (like I do), do the classic way as simple mail attachment!

radzmar
LoveCycle Blog
Documents you need:
LiveCycle Designer ES2 Docs

sarahwarda
Registered: Dec 8 2008
Posts: 17
I did all of those things. the problem is that when i send the supposed "usage enabled document" is gives me the message:

"this document contained certain rights to enable special features in adobe reader. the document has been changed since it was created and these rights are no longer valid. please contact the author for the original version of this document."

i still dont know what's wrong
radzmar
Expert
Registered: Nov 3 2008
Posts: 1202
In what way do you distribute/mail your form?

radzmar
LoveCycle Blog
Documents you need:
LiveCycle Designer ES2 Docs

sarahwarda
Registered: Dec 8 2008
Posts: 17
i've tried both using LC's distribute forms feature and just sending it as an attachment in an email. either way gives users that message.
radzmar
Expert
Registered: Nov 3 2008
Posts: 1202
OK,

can you send me your form?
I will have a look at this, if you want!

radzmar
LoveCycle Blog
Documents you need:
LiveCycle Designer ES2 Docs

sarahwarda
Registered: Dec 8 2008
Posts: 17
yes! it doesn't look like i can add an attachment through clicking the email link on this forum, my email address is sarahwarda [at] gmail [dot] com. do you want to send me yours?
radzmar
Expert
Registered: Nov 3 2008
Posts: 1202
check your mailbox again!!!

You mail button was the standard mail button of designer.
I replaced it with a own version.
you can edit it's function easily with the script editor.

I also set your form to dynamic in its properties.
this was neccessary!

Check it out.
When you click the button your mail app lauches with an custom message and an pdf attached!

radzmar
LoveCycle Blog
Documents you need:
LiveCycle Designer ES2 Docs

FRED57
Registered: Sep 9 2008
Posts: 40
Is it finally working?
sarahwarda
Registered: Dec 8 2008
Posts: 17
yes!
FRED57
Registered: Sep 9 2008
Posts: 40
Hi Sarahwarda

Are you really sure that people with acrobat reader can send you form as PDF?