Editing Images

do you save the PDF, close it and then re-open it ?

I am not familiar, but perhaps Acrobat needs to refresh...

Or, perhaps, this is not an Adobe forum Question, but a Corel tech support question.

Saving the pdf and reopening does not show the changes. How do you refresh adobe?

And I do not think it is a corel tech issue because I can do this in any other of the many programs I use from word to excel to web design software to CMS and it work fine but on adobe it does not.

Another strange thing is it adobe has an object editor which would be the draw part and a image editor which would be paint but it will only let me place images (jpg). And when I go to edit the image, it open an image in both draw and paint. it should open image in paint only since I set touch up editor for paint as image and draw as object editor. I input the exe files in each part of the touch up preferences.

I read all the help I can find on this and am not getting any place.

Thanks

So, just so I understand the issue better...

Can I assume this worklow ?

Open PDF file, select edit object tool in Acrobat, right click on image, select Edit Image - this extarcts image and opens this image in Corel --

am I with you so far ?

-- but instead of actually editing the image, you paste - and expect that when you save, then close, that Acrobat gracefully accepts the new image and applies any and all transforms and such to this new image, then display the updated image in the original PDF ?

as for what an image actually "is" - well, Acrobat would not really know what you are asking it to send to your application of choice if the image you think you selected has a mask, and the mask is active - ?

as for your statement;

"And I do not think it is a corel tech issue because I can do this in any other of the many programs I use from word to excel to web design software to CMS and it work fine but on adobe it does not.
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These other applications are authoring applications - Adobe Acrobat is not an authoring application...

The help says: "By default, the TouchUp Object tool starts Adobe Photoshop (if installed) to edit images and objects. To use a different editing application, specify the application in the TouchUp preferences. Choose Edit > Preferences (Windows) or Acrobat > Preferences (Mac OS), and select TouchUp on the left side of the Preferences dialog box. Click Image Editor (for bitmap images) or Page/Object Editor, (for vector images) and select the application on your hard drive.Using the TouchUp Object tool, select the image or object or Shift-click to select multiple images or objects. If you change the object selection, the editing session terminates.

To edit all the images and objects on the page, right-click/Control-click the page, and choose Edit Page.

Right-click/Control-click the selection, and choose Edit Image or Edit Object. (The available command depends on what is selected.)


In the editing application, choose File > Save. The object is automatically updated and displayed in the PDF when you bring Acrobat to the foreground.
Important: For Photoshop, if the image is in a format supported by Photoshop 6.0 or later, your edited image is saved back into the PDF. However, if the image is in an unsupported format, Photoshop handles the image as a generic PDF image, and the edited image is saved to disk instead of back into the PDF."

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Note the: "In the editing application, choose File > Save. The object is automatically updated and displayed in the PDF when you bring Acrobat to the foreground. "That is exactly what I am doing but when I hit file save it is not saving and updating in the pdf. I even thought maybe this was the answer "However, if the image is in an unsupported format, Photoshop handles the image as a generic PDF image, and the edited image is saved to disk instead of back into the PDF." but it is not saving it back to the disk either plus a jpg is a support format.

So something going wrong and I am trying to figure out what.

Thanks

but thi is not what you are doing, apparenly.

you mentioned that you are opening an image, then REPLACING that image, this is not the same as EDITING the image...

So, you are doing something that the Touchup tool can do...

Ok, I miss worded by replace meant edit.

Let me say it correctly - I edit the image and click file > save exactly as I the instruction say but the changes do not take effect on adobe.I am only trying to figure out why and thought maybe someone else might have had the same problem and be able to get me some advice.

Kimber

Perhaps you might find better feedback from a Corel forum - most people here use Adobe products, and are not familiar with Corel.

I would have been happy to try and duplicate your problem, but without having a copy of Corel, I can't.

I have had instances where some PDF file contained a type of image that I could not edit, but Adobe Acrobat normally stopped me before I could even view the image with an error message - it may be that you have the opposite issue, where Corel is trying to write back the image using some default settings and this confuses Acrobat - perhaps some preference file or some setting in Corel might need to be changed.

I went to the forum - could not find anything there...

I also went to the Corel site, could not find any feature listed that mentioned that you could use Corel to edit images in PDF files and then put them back into the PDF...can you edit objects - maybe - just not images - in Corel Draw ?

Do you have Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 - and tried that ?

At this point I think adobe will not talk to corel correctly, like mac and windows use to be able not to talk to each other. I have been using corel draw for 10 years now since version 4.2 (or something like that) and never had this problem before. I have use Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 and adobe illustrator before in off site jobs for clients and honestly, adobe tends to make product to limited to what adobe considers to be important to make business or printed documents which is very limiting to a graphic designer. Which is why graphic designer and engravers wanting pure design use corel and most office make print and business type forms use adobe products. Just the difference in the two products. Each are good for what they are designed to do but both are limited to what the other offers.

I do not think it is an issue with either software but that fact they they simple will not talk to each other correctly. I can going pick up some freebie graphic program that adobe to will not fit with for basic editing and just have to do the real graphic editing in corel and the form part in adobe. Take longer but adobe is not very user friendly to anything that not a strictly business form. Adobe acrobat and life cycle are really only made to handle business forms and not other items (thinking outside the box) that require forms.

Just life - I feel like the mac and pc commerical with one guy in a suit and the other being young and hip. - except one (adobe) wants to be business and (corel) wants to be pure design. So they both good software that simple can't play nice together. :)

okay,

so, my take away is that this worked fine before (prowly version 7) , but no longer works with 8 for some odd reason ?


I mean, the original post says that you are using Adobe Acrobat Pro version 8 - perhaps you need to update to 8.1 ?

I see no reason that this should not work, although, like i said, after doing a little mousing around I could not see this listed as a feature for Corel - it would seem to me that Corel would definitely put that feature up on their web site as I would think that telling people they can edit PDF file images and objects would be a reason to consider buying Corel !

This should work ! I have several customers that use non Adobe image editors to modify images inside PDF files, both in a server automated batch way and using workstation applications.