I had a document from a client in aPDF format but whenever it reaches the ps printer it crashes
i have converted the colors to CMYK done preflight but it is still
any body plize
Many thanx
Imran
My document cant print on to Postscript Printer
2010-02-12 05:15:26
My Product Information:
Acrobat Pro 9.2, Windows
Acrobat Pro 9.2, Windows
2010-02-12 21:34:52
#2
Hey smitchell15
so how can i do it when a client brought a PDF can a pdf go back to be distilled i didnt get it
thanx
so how can i do it when a client brought a PDF can a pdf go back to be distilled i didnt get it
thanx
2010-02-25 14:24:36
#3
[i]Refrying[/i] PDF (i.e., redistilling) as suggested by others is not an Adobe-recommended solution.
The fact is that the original poster, Imran, gives us precious little information about (1) what type of PDF file they are trying to print (creator, size, fonts embedded or not, etc.), (2) printer model and features being printed to, and (3) print settings in Acrobat.
Provide more information and maybe can better assist you.
- Dov
The fact is that the original poster, Imran, gives us precious little information about (1) what type of PDF file they are trying to print (creator, size, fonts embedded or not, etc.), (2) printer model and features being printed to, and (3) print settings in Acrobat.
Provide more information and maybe can better assist you.
- Dov
2010-03-01 13:34:13
#4
Hey Dov and Imran
Out of curiosity why do you not recommend redistilling? I have a protocol in place at my work that we redistil everything because you can never trust what is supplied and we deal with hundred of adverts a week, since the procedure was introduced we have had no errors what-so-ever in our printed publications and happy customers again :-)
If you have the correct .ps settings and that your distiller settings are configured correctly to your printers spec, what is the problem with that, there is no downgrading of images quality, no issues with fonts, and colours come out as intended.
Imran, if you could supply more information on the PDF like Dov asked for that would be a big help
Out of curiosity why do you not recommend redistilling? I have a protocol in place at my work that we redistil everything because you can never trust what is supplied and we deal with hundred of adverts a week, since the procedure was introduced we have had no errors what-so-ever in our printed publications and happy customers again :-)
If you have the correct .ps settings and that your distiller settings are configured correctly to your printers spec, what is the problem with that, there is no downgrading of images quality, no issues with fonts, and colours come out as intended.
Imran, if you could supply more information on the PDF like Dov asked for that would be a big help
2010-03-01 13:57:00
#5
There area a number of very good reasons not to refry a PDF file (i.e., produce PostScript from a PDF file and then use Distiller to create a new PDF file from same):
(1) If you have either live transparency, color management, or layers in the original PDF file, you will lose them in the refried PDF file. PostScript does not support live transparency, color management, or layers and thus, such content in a PDF file cannot be "round-tripped" with refrying.
(2) Losing the live transparency from your PDF file means that the infamous flattening will take place. If you don't specify the correct output color space and final target resolution, you can readily end up with serious artifacts in your content. For reliable PDF print publishing workflows, transparency should be left "live" until the latest possible point, preferrably at the RIP. At best, your refried PDF files are device dependent; at worst they are defective. Also, flattening can result in some text, depending upon the context of its use, being turned into outlines or rasters as part of flattening. You lose the ability to search for such text or use text touch-up.
(3) Since you become device dependent in terms of color space with the refry process, forget about any repurposing of content.
(4) The PostScript generated by Acrobat for printing is optimized for printing, not for production of new PDF files from said PostScript. You seriously risk ending up with weird font subsets and problems with fonts in refried PDF.
Adobe strongly recommends against refrying as a general purpose fixup. Better, you should use the preflight validation and fixup capabilities in either Acrobat Pro and/or available from third parties to fix problems. In watching what has gone on during the last years, we have many more problems caused by refrying than actually fixed via the process.
- Dov
(1) If you have either live transparency, color management, or layers in the original PDF file, you will lose them in the refried PDF file. PostScript does not support live transparency, color management, or layers and thus, such content in a PDF file cannot be "round-tripped" with refrying.
(2) Losing the live transparency from your PDF file means that the infamous flattening will take place. If you don't specify the correct output color space and final target resolution, you can readily end up with serious artifacts in your content. For reliable PDF print publishing workflows, transparency should be left "live" until the latest possible point, preferrably at the RIP. At best, your refried PDF files are device dependent; at worst they are defective. Also, flattening can result in some text, depending upon the context of its use, being turned into outlines or rasters as part of flattening. You lose the ability to search for such text or use text touch-up.
(3) Since you become device dependent in terms of color space with the refry process, forget about any repurposing of content.
(4) The PostScript generated by Acrobat for printing is optimized for printing, not for production of new PDF files from said PostScript. You seriously risk ending up with weird font subsets and problems with fonts in refried PDF.
Adobe strongly recommends against refrying as a general purpose fixup. Better, you should use the preflight validation and fixup capabilities in either Acrobat Pro and/or available from third parties to fix problems. In watching what has gone on during the last years, we have many more problems caused by refrying than actually fixed via the process.
- Dov
2010-03-01 14:28:16
#6
Hi Dov,
Thanx for the reply,
Thats the reason why I redistil as none of the above is important to our company, our specifications to our clients are PDF/X-1a (which is are our print suppliers specs) which does not support transparency so all our files are already flattened before they get to us (Well, most of the time!, if not they are dealt with accordingly!). The PDFs we receive get checked, processed and passed to the printers and that is the last you see of the PDF so there is no need for repurposing or touching the PDF again.
I have created my own preflight and fix up settings that the company uses everyday as well, the main reason why i refry is because there is a risk that a process will be missed by someone in the chain such as the preflighting so this covers my tracks incase, as i can't look at every PDF that comes through our building, i wouldn't have a life!
I agree with what you say about not using it as a general fix-up if people know what they are doing with Preflight, but when i am not in the office, there is nobody who can fix the PDF and the distiller method has eliminated every error we have come across so far
Cheers
Sean
Thanx for the reply,
Thats the reason why I redistil as none of the above is important to our company, our specifications to our clients are PDF/X-1a (which is are our print suppliers specs) which does not support transparency so all our files are already flattened before they get to us (Well, most of the time!, if not they are dealt with accordingly!). The PDFs we receive get checked, processed and passed to the printers and that is the last you see of the PDF so there is no need for repurposing or touching the PDF again.
I have created my own preflight and fix up settings that the company uses everyday as well, the main reason why i refry is because there is a risk that a process will be missed by someone in the chain such as the preflighting so this covers my tracks incase, as i can't look at every PDF that comes through our building, i wouldn't have a life!
I agree with what you say about not using it as a general fix-up if people know what they are doing with Preflight, but when i am not in the office, there is nobody who can fix the PDF and the distiller method has eliminated every error we have come across so far
Cheers
Sean
2010-03-16 18:12:57
#7
Has anyone tried "refrying" a LiveCycle interactive form to a printable (flattened) PDF? I need to automate this from VB application.
Dont try this tho ONLY if you have links, movies etc in the document as distiller will remove them!