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questions related to print PDF with transparency into CMYK separation.

LHA
Registered: Jun 7 2010
Posts: 3

- I have a picture, on that picture I draw 10 boxes with each a different overprint color. (using CMYK based colors)
- Then a PDF v1.3 is created. On the preview (in Acrobat 9) all boxes are correctly visualized as overprint.
- When printed on an AGFA Sherpa the result is correct, all boxes are outputted overprint.
- When outputting this PDF onto 4 plates (CMYK) through an AGFA rip (for newspapers) the result becomes knockout for all boxes.

When they upgrade to produce PDF´s in version 1.4/1.6 should it be possible to output all boxes correctly overprint on 4 CMYK plates?

What are the alternatives in case this upgrade is not possible? Reprint the v1.3 through distiller to create a higher PDF version?

When a color is used containing both Black and Cyan, the visualisation and output in Adobe will become knockout for this color. Should it be possible to use an ovreprint color using Black and Cyan and still print as overprint on 4 CMYK plates? Or only in the newer PDF versions?

My Product Information:
Acrobat Standard 5.x or older, Windows
dbaker
Expert
Registered: Feb 10 2006
Posts: 413
Hi LHA –

There are a few issues at play in your question. Primarily, though, the answer is based on your PDF version. Transparency/overprint/knockout features have changed in the last few versions of the PDF specification. For example, the text knockout parameter was added in PDF 1.4, and includes a flag to specify what elements are affected.

Prior to PDF 1.4, you couldn’t specify the feature. So the overprint parameter in the file would be false by default. As a result, your overprint color causes the underlying color to be erased, and you have a knockout.

Unfortunately, redistilling the file at a higher PDF version won’t make a difference unless your output device uses a newer or higher PDF version. The overprinting/knockout effect is device-dependent and not defined by the PDF language.

For reference, here’s an online location where you can read the PDF 1.7 Reference:

http://www.verypdf.com/document/pdf-format-reference/index.htm (click BOOKMARK at the top of the page to view the table of contents)

donna.

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LHA
Registered: Jun 7 2010
Posts: 3
Hello Donna,

Thanks very much for your answer.

In other words: (please correct me if I am wrong)
**when we continue to use PDF1.3 we will *never* be able to output ont he RIP with overprint?
(We were in doubt, since the results is 100% correct when test-outputted on the Agfa Sherpa.)

**And when we upgrade to PDF1.4, we will be able to output correctly with transparency on a rip using 4 plates while using CMYK colors? (without the blue/black restriction)

We did do a while ago a quick print test (text only) in PDF1.4 but had font problems.

Regards,
Letitia.
mattbeals
Registered: May 10 2007
Posts: 40
When printing are you using the "simulate overprint" option?