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Arabic not compatible

shaikhvasi
Registered: Dec 21 2008
Posts: 3
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Can any one help me to know whether Arabic text is easily compatible with Acrobat version -8. Are all fonts downloadable when a file is dragged in to the distiller.
thanks in anticipation

My Product Information:
Acrobat Pro 8.0, Windows
daka630
Expert
Registered: Mar 1 2007
Posts: 1420
Acrobat/Distiller does support Arabic.
For processing PDFs from Arabic native language applications you may need the regionalized version (middle east).
I believe this may be obtained from www.winsoft-international.com.

A font pack is also available from Adobe to provide Adobe's Arabic font set.
With the appropriate software, files & operating system configuration (e.g., right to left reading)
I believe you can process Arabic output PDFs via Distiller.


Some reference links.
[url=http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrasianfontpack.php]Asian and Extended Language Font Packs for Adobe Reader[/url]

[url=http://blogs.adobe.com/loridefurio/2007/06/font_packs_to_u.php]Font Packs to use with Acrobat or Reader 8[/url]

[url=http://www.adobe.com/mea/support/faq/faq.php]Middle East (ME) and Central European (CE) FAQs[/url]

[url]http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bbeda8b/[/url]

This last link is to the user to user forum for Acrobat. Select "forum search" & use "arabic" to pull up the related posts.
There looks to be a lot of information there.

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shaikhvasi
Registered: Dec 21 2008
Posts: 3
Thanks Daka 630
I have all the related fonts and system but files sent to our Heildelberg RIP usually FAILS. Any idea?
thanks for the tips
UVSAR
Expert
Registered: Oct 29 2008
Posts: 1357
One thing to check - Acrobat stores text internally as Unicode values, so if your Arabic fonts aren't Unicode, or have a strange lookup table, Acrobat may not be happy. What usually happens in that case is the PDF looks OK on screen, but when you copy and paste some text into a non-fonted application (like Notepad) the characters are all wrong. You also of course need a font with permission to embed defined in the header. The PDF Properties..Fonts popup will show any that haven't embedded at all, but won't reveal a Unicode problem.
tahpape
Registered: Dec 25 2008
Posts: 1
I also have the same question regarding this. When I opened the arabic Quran verses in PDF, it looks perfect. Then I tried to do the same using Adobe Illustrator but an error message stating that the fonts used are missing. What must I do??pls help.urgent
daka630
Expert
Registered: Mar 1 2007
Posts: 1420
shaikhvasi -
Just a toss of the chicken bones - but, perhaps you could use an upfront preflight to check out the PDFs prior to entry into the RIP?
Maybe something is tucked away at the Ghent workgroup's site or Enfocus site?

tahpape -
You may have a version of InDesign that is not set up to work directly with Arabic.
This thread at the InDesign forum may be of interest.
[url]http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b62b4f/7[/url]
You may want to consider getting Adobe InDesign CS4 "Middle Eastern" if you do not already have it.
Likewise, Adobe Acrobat Professional 9.0 "Middle Eastern" provides improved support of Arabic.

You may need to install a current Arabic font set.
Older ones can be a problem (such as “Simplified Arabic” and “Traditional Arabic”).

Even current Arabic fonts from vendors may have issues.
Example:
Adobe's "Adobe Arabic" font Read Me:

Quote:
All glyphs in the font cannot be accessed unless you are using an OpenType-savvy application.
[url]http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/html/readmes/AdobeArabicReadMe.php#A8[/url]

Adobe's "Adobe Arabic™ Std" font Read Me:

Quote:
All glyphs in the font cannot be accessed unless you are using an OpenType-savvy application.
[url]http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/html/readmes/AdobeArabicReadMe.php#A8[/url]

However, provided the vendor's guidelines on what the font can or cannot do are known then everything ought to go ok.

Odds 'n Ends to consider:
Bill@VT quotes a colleage who works with Arabic:

Quote:
Yes, there are lots of problems. First, not all the fonts can convert
to pdf in the first place (license issues). Second, the fonts that
convert (e.g. arial) cant be retrieved back to word if formatting or
mixed arabic english text is involved. With simple text, the only way
you can get it back to word is cut and paste and not the export to word
feature."
See: [url]http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b59429/3[/url]

Scott Bishop wrote:
After speaking to a manager at Glyph Systems, I should add that the use of Arabic Simplified is discouraged. This font was created back in the 1970's when typesetting equipment was unable to produce some of the shapes required by the Arabic alphabet. It exists for legacy reasons and even Microsoft has debated removing it from the Windows OS (and may some day do so). Glyph also mentioned that since Microsoft can change the fonts at any time, you could end up having to re-license the font(s) after each upgrade. So, it appears that if using ArabicTypesetting is an option for you, it is clearly the best choice.
See: [url]http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3c061a1c/1[/url]

Quote:
Some “standard” Arabic fonts, because of licensing restrictions, cannot be embedded in PDF files. This applies to the usual favorites, “Simplified Arabic” and “Traditional Arabic” for the PC. Even if you do not use these fonts, but one of them is named as your complex font in your formatting, we will not be able to produce a PDF file! (Use) ... unrestricted font(s). If you use “Simplified Arabic” or “Traditional Arabic,” we will have to reformat everything you do.
See: [url]http://www.uib.no/jais/fonts.htm[/url]


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